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		<title>By: cearta.ie » The last Irish case on criminal libel</title>
		<link>http://www.cearta.ie/2007/02/privacy-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-11530</link>
		<dc:creator>cearta.ie » The last Irish case on criminal libel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In particular, the Convention has been used to recalibrate the common law in the context both of privacy and of libel, and Gilligan J&#8217;s reasoning would seem to undercut this kind of development. It [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In particular, the Convention has been used to recalibrate the common law in the context both of privacy and of libel, and Gilligan J&#8217;s reasoning would seem to undercut this kind of development. It [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cearta.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hat tips - Political Advertising; Privacy</title>
		<link>http://www.cearta.ie/2007/02/privacy-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-2687</link>
		<dc:creator>cearta.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hat tips - Political Advertising; Privacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] English law. As Gavin Phillipson demonstrated during a recent Dublin Legal Workshop presentation, Privacy Law in the UK is still in need of clarification. I had rather hoped that an appeal to the House of Lords in a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] English law. As Gavin Phillipson demonstrated during a recent Dublin Legal Workshop presentation, Privacy Law in the UK is still in need of clarification. I had rather hoped that an appeal to the House of Lords in a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eoin</title>
		<link>http://www.cearta.ie/2007/02/privacy-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just come across this. In R v Goldstein and Rimmington &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/2005/63.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[2005] UKHL 63&lt;/a&gt; (21 July 2005) Lord Bingham of Cornhill (at [33]) referred to Bentham&#039;s &quot;famous polemic&quot; &#039;Truth versus Ashurst&#039; as &quot;a searing criticism&quot; of &quot;dog-law&quot;, and observed: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The domestic law of England and Wales has set its face firmly against &quot;dog-law&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it should, even in the case of the tabloid press! He continued:

&lt;blockquote&gt;... There are two guiding principles: no one should be punished under a law unless it is sufficiently clear and certain to enable him to know what conduct is forbidden before he does it; and no one should be punished for any act which was not clearly and ascertainably punishable when the act was done.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He made these comments in the context of a potentially unclear common law criminal offence, but the principle ought to be the same for common law tort liability, yes, even for the tabloid press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just come across this. In R v Goldstein and Rimmington <a href="http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKHL/2005/63.html" rel="nofollow">[2005] UKHL 63</a> (21 July 2005) Lord Bingham of Cornhill (at [33]) referred to Bentham&#8217;s &#8220;famous polemic&#8221; &#8216;Truth versus Ashurst&#8217; as &#8220;a searing criticism&#8221; of &#8220;dog-law&#8221;, and observed: </p>
<blockquote><p>The domestic law of England and Wales has set its face firmly against &#8220;dog-law&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>So it should, even in the case of the tabloid press! He continued:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; There are two guiding principles: no one should be punished under a law unless it is sufficiently clear and certain to enable him to know what conduct is forbidden before he does it; and no one should be punished for any act which was not clearly and ascertainably punishable when the act was done.</p></blockquote>
<p>He made these comments in the context of a potentially unclear common law criminal offence, but the principle ought to be the same for common law tort liability, yes, even for the tabloid press.</p>
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		<title>By: cearta.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Privacy on the beach</title>
		<link>http://www.cearta.ie/2007/02/privacy-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>cearta.ie &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Privacy on the beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or not, it cannot have been unexpectd, coming as it does on the heels of recent expansions of privacy law in the UK [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or not, it cannot have been unexpectd, coming as it does on the heels of recent expansions of privacy law in the UK [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eoin</title>
		<link>http://www.cearta.ie/2007/02/privacy-law-in-the-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Steve and Ruth, for the comments. On this one, I&#039;m with Ruth. Jeremy Betham, in &#039;Truth v Ashurst&#039;, pilloried judge-made law thus:


&lt;blockquote&gt;It is the judges (as we have seen) that make the common law. Do you know how they make it? Just as a man makes laws for his dog. When your dog does anything you want to break him of, you wait till he does it, and then beat him for it. This is the way you make laws for your dog: and this is the way the judges make law for you and me. They wonâ€™t tell a man beforehand what it is he should not doâ€”they wonâ€™t so much as allow of his being told: they lie by till he has done something which they say he should not have done, and then they hang him for it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Now, there may not in fact be much difference between dogs and red-tops, but, for the reasons which Ruth gives, this was not a good way for the law to operate when Bentham pointed it out, and it still isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve and Ruth, for the comments. On this one, I&#8217;m with Ruth. Jeremy Betham, in &#8216;Truth v Ashurst&#8217;, pilloried judge-made law thus:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is the judges (as we have seen) that make the common law. Do you know how they make it? Just as a man makes laws for his dog. When your dog does anything you want to break him of, you wait till he does it, and then beat him for it. This is the way you make laws for your dog: and this is the way the judges make law for you and me. They wonâ€™t tell a man beforehand what it is he should not doâ€”they wonâ€™t so much as allow of his being told: they lie by till he has done something which they say he should not have done, and then they hang him for it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, there may not in fact be much difference between dogs and red-tops, but, for the reasons which Ruth gives, this was not a good way for the law to operate when Bentham pointed it out, and it still isn&#8217;t.</p>
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