Comments on: “You can’t fire me; I’ve got tenure!” http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/ the Irish for rights Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:43:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eoin http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/comment-page-1/#comment-2492 Eoin Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:52:41 +0000 http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/#comment-2492 Thanks, David. That's excellent! Thanks, David. That’s excellent!

]]> By: David Malone http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/comment-page-1/#comment-2491 David Malone Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:16:31 +0000 http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/#comment-2491 I guess you've also seen the reference to tenure in Futurama? Mayor: "Dr. Wernstrom, can you save my city?" Wernstrom: "Of course, but it'll cost you. First I'll need tenure." Mayor: "Done." Wernstrom: "And a big research grant." Mayor: "You got it!" Wernstrom: "Also, access to a lab and five graduate students...at least three of them Chinese." Mayor: "Did...all right, done. What's your plan?" Wernstrom: "What plan? I'm set for life. Au revoir, suckers!" Leela: "That rat! Do something!" Mayor: "I wish I could, but he's got tenure." I guess you’ve also seen the reference to tenure in Futurama?

Mayor: “Dr. Wernstrom, can you save my city?”
Wernstrom: “Of course, but it’ll cost you. First I’ll need tenure.”
Mayor: “Done.”
Wernstrom: “And a big research grant.”
Mayor: “You got it!”
Wernstrom: “Also, access to a lab and five graduate students…at least three of them Chinese.”
Mayor: “Did…all right, done. What’s your plan?”
Wernstrom: “What plan? I’m set for life. Au revoir, suckers!”
Leela: “That rat! Do something!”
Mayor: “I wish I could, but he’s got tenure.”

]]> By: Eoin http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/comment-page-1/#comment-2477 Eoin Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:46:52 +0000 http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/#comment-2477 Thanks for the comments, guys. Ciarán, is the case you mention R v Hull University Visitor, ex parte Page [1993] AC 682 (HL)? Thanks for the comments, guys. Ciarán, is the case you mention R v Hull University Visitor, ex parte Page [1993] AC 682 (HL)?

]]> By: Daithí http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/comment-page-1/#comment-2476 Daithí Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:26:33 +0000 http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/#comment-2476 <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=K79OHbSMWQI" rel="nofollow">Here's the video</a> of that Hirsch appearance on Studio 60! Here’s the video of that Hirsch appearance on Studio 60!

]]> By: Ciarán http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/comment-page-1/#comment-2475 Ciarán Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:22:25 +0000 http://www.cearta.ie/2007/03/you-cant-fire-me-ive-got-tenure/#comment-2475 On the nature of academic tenure in higher education, it doesn't exist any more in the UK. I think there was a case about ten years ago involving a lecture from Hull where the right of universities to let lecturers go. In Ireland, I think lecturers are more or less civil servants so will be subject to whatever rules count there. In the USA, once you make tenure there are of course informal ways of getting you out, but for the most part you're very hard to fire. I think they still need to bugger the burser to be fired, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085478/" rel="nofollow">so to speak</a>. On the nature of academic tenure in higher education, it doesn’t exist any more in the UK. I think there was a case about ten years ago involving a lecture from Hull where the right of universities to let lecturers go. In Ireland, I think lecturers are more or less civil servants so will be subject to whatever rules count there.

In the USA, once you make tenure there are of course informal ways of getting you out, but for the most part you’re very hard to fire. I think they still need to bugger the burser to be fired, so to speak.

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