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Points for Law

20 August, 20127 November, 2012
| 2 Comments
| Central Applications Office, Irish Society, Legal Education

Central Applications Office animated logo, via their siteThe Central Applications Office (logo left) processes all applications to first year undergraduate courses in the country’s various third level institutions. Those institutions inform the CAO of the number of places in a given course, and the CAO’s computer will allot places on the course on the basis of results in the Leaving Certificate, a state examination at the end of secondary school. The grades of the last-admitted candidate can be regarded as the cut-off for qualification for entry to that course. Those grades are assigned points, and the entry requirement for any given third-level course in any given year can be represented in terms of points. This year, the first round of offers of places in third level institutions was made this morning, and the cut-off points levels for their 44 50 law offerings are below.

            Points Required for Entry to 2012 Level 8 Courses

Athlone IT
AL057 Business and Law 270
AL058 Accounting and Law no points stated

Carlow IT
CW708 Law 305
CW938 Business with Law 315

University College Cork
CK301 Law 475
CK302 Law and French 515
CK304 Law and Irish 530*
CK305 Law (Clinical) 535
CK306 Law (International) 550*

Dublin Business School
DB514 Business and Law 235
DB568 Law 275

Dublin City University
DC230 Economics Politics and Law 390
DC232 Law and Society (BCL) 410

Dublin Institute of Technology
DT321 Business and Law 400
DT532 Law 350

Griffith College Dublin and Griffith College Cork
GC203 Law (Cork) 315
GC403 Law (Dublin) 305
GC404 Business and Law (Dublin) 250

Trinity College Dublin
TR004 Law 525*
TR017 Law and Business 565
TR018 Law and French 565
TR019 Law and German 525
TR020 Law and Political Science 575

University College Dublin
DN009 Law (BCL) 495
DN021 Business and Law 495
DN028 BCL Maîtrise 525
DN029 Law with French Law (BCL) 560
DN060 Law with History 500
DN065 Law with Politics 510
DN066 Law with Philosophy 495
DN067 Law with Economics 515

NUI Galway
GY101 Arts 300 (depending on subject choice and progression rules, this can lead to a BA in Legal Science)
GY250 Corporate Law 350
GY251 Civil Law 405

Limerick IT
LC231 Law and Taxation 305

University of Limerick
LM020 Law and Accounting 415
LM029 Law Plus 405

NUI Maynooth
MH115 Law (BCL) and Arts 460
MH 119 Law 475
MH406 Law and Business 460

Waterford Institute of Technology
WD140 Law 295


            Points Required for Entry to 2012 Level 7/6 Law Courses

Dublin Business School
DB580 Legal Studies 105
DB581 Legal and Business Studies 170
DB582 Legal Studies AQA
DB583 Legal and Business Studies 100

IT Carlow
CW706 Legal Studies 270
CW926 Business with Law 250

Letterkenny IT
LY207 Law 140

Waterford IT
WD013 Legal Studies 225


This list follows the order provided by the CAO.…

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The Quinns’ “outrageous” Contempt – punitive and coercive orders in the High Court

23 July, 20126 November, 2012
| 3 Comments
| contempt of court, Irish cases, Irish Law, Irish Society

Cover of 'The Joy' by Paul Howard, via O'Brien Press WebsiteI joined Jim Fitzpatrick (Economics Editor, BBC Northern Ireland) on George Lee‘s The Business on RTÉ Radio 1 on Saturday morning to discuss Friday’s contempt proceedings against Seán Quinn, Seán Quinn Jr, and Peter Darragh Quinn (podcast mp3 here).

On 29 June last, as part of a long-running action by the Irish Bank Resolution Corporation (IBRC) against various members of the family of the businessman Sean Quinn, Dunne J held that property schemes in Russia and Ukraine were designed by the Quinns to put €500m worth of assets beyond the reach of IBRC, and ordered the Quinns to unwind those transactions. On Friday, she held that they had not sufficiently complied with her orders, but she gave Seán Quinn three further months to do so. However, she held that Seán Quinn Jr and Peter Darragh Quinn had committed “outrageous” contempts of court, and sentenced each of them to three months in prison. Seán Quinn Jr was taken into custody after the hearing, to begin his sentence in Mountjoy Prison. As Carol Coulter points out in this morning’s Irish Times, Seán Quinn (Sr) remains at large as the judge felt that he is in the best position to work for the return of the assets.…

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The Irish Constitution places a premium on honest and fearless debate and trusts in the power of argument and debate and reasoned discussion

6 June, 20126 July, 2022
| 4 Comments
| Freedom of Expression, Irish Law, Irish Society

Referendum Commission logo, via their websiteThe words in the rather long title to this post are taken from today’s decision of Hogan J in Doherty v The Referendum Commission [2012] IEHC 211 (06 June 2012). It is nothing less than a tour de force in which he considered hugely complex and daunting questions with courtesy and erudition, notwithstanding enormous time pressures. The case concerned an application by Pearse Doherty TD for judicial review of certain statements by the Referendum Commission in the course of the campaign for the referendum which was held on 31 May 2012 in respect of the Thirtieth Amendment of the Constitution (Treaty on Stability, Coordination and Governance in the Economic and Monetary Union) Bill, 2012. Hogan J quite rightly dismissed the application, in a cogent and compelling judgment which will no doubt be pored over by constitutional lawyers for a long time to come. He covered many important issues of constitutional and EU law in relatively brief but entirely compelling compass. I will leave to other commentators to parse the substantive decision. I want in this brief post simply to quote (with links and emphasis added) a very important section of his judgment. They are four paragraphs of clarity, style and power which to my mind will have a hugely significant impact on the development of political speech rights at Irish constitutional law:…

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Snarking the Hunt – III – Teaching and Learning vs Research

23 April, 20127 November, 2012
| 1 Comment
| Conferences, Lectures, Papers and Workshops, Irish Society, Universities

Purple Globe, via School of Education TCD websiteThe third session of Thursday’s CAVE Seminar (pdf) on the National Strategy for Higher Education (the Hunt Report) divided into two workshops, one on Research (facilitator: Dr Aiden Seery (TCD); rapporteur: Dr Joan Lalor (TCD)), the other on Teaching and Learning (facilitator: Dr Ciara O’Farrell (TCD); rapporteur: yours truly). The workshops discussed many of the themes of the first two panels, and the rapporteurs’ reports to the final plenary session allowed those discussions to engage with one another. Proceeding from their separate starting points, there was a great deal of convergence in the analysis and conclusions of the two workshops, not least their agreement as to the flaws in the Hunt Report.

Both workshops bemoaned that modern policy is driving a wedge between research on the one hand, and teaching and learning on the other, as reflected in the titles and focus of the two workshops! Both workshops felt that it is crucial for HE to maintain and insist upon parity of esteem of between teaching and learning, on the one hand, with research on the other. However, both workshops felt that government policies and institutional strategies are increasingly favouring a particular kind of research. State funding is mostly for research, since it is easy to ascertain certain research inputs (money) and to measure certain research outputs (for example, PhD numbers, or peer-reviewed publications in the “right” journals in the “right” databases).…

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Snarking the Hunt – II – The Student Experience

21 April, 20127 November, 2012
| 1 Comment
| Conferences, Lectures, Papers and Workshops, Irish Society, Universities

Purple Globe, via School of Education TCD websiteThe second panel of Thursday’s CAVE Seminar (pdf) on the National Strategy for Higher Education (the Hunt Report) concerned The Student Experience. It was chaired by Dr Patrick Geoghegan (TCD), and featured Martin McAndrew (Vice President, TCD GSU), Dr Mary-Liz Trant (HEA), Dr Austin Hanley (Athlone IT), and Dr Aiden Kenny (TUI). There were several connections between the first panel and this one. Two stood out. In this morning’s panel, Tony welcomed the emphasis in Hunt on generic skills as an important aspect teaching and learning, and he argued that there is no inherent conflict between academic values and employability skills. By way of contrast, in this panel, Austin recalled the negative impact of fees on student participation, and commented that “you have to have the opportunity to go to College to have a student experience”. Both of these themes recurred throughout this second panel.

Aiden explicitly argued that quality and cuts are antithetical, and although academic staff have so far managed to maintain academic quality and standards, a crisis point is nearing: the mounting workload is not sustainable, and (recalling a point made by Mike and Erika in the first panel) and the voice of academic expertise seems excluded from the development of policy in this area.…

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Snarking the Hunt – I – Who pays for College?

19 April, 20127 November, 2012
| 3 Comments
| Conferences, Lectures, Papers and Workshops, Irish Society, Universities

Purple Globe, via School of Education TCD websiteI spent this morning at a fascinating Seminar (pdf) on the National Strategy for Higher Education (the Hunt Report, which I blogged here), organised by my TCD colleagues Dr Andrew Loxley, Dr Aiden Seery, and Dr John Walsh, (CAVE, School of Education, TCD). This is the first of four three blogposts about the event. The first panel concerned Who pays for College? Expansion and Sustainability in Higher Education. It was chaired by Prof Maria Slowey (DCU), and featured Mike Jennings (IFUT), Tony Donohoe (IBEC), Ryan Bartlett (President, TCD SU; and student in School of Education, TCD), and Dr Erika Doyle (TRSA).

In her introduction, Maria pointed out that the question of “who pays?” is much broader than fees, hence questions of expansion and sustainability in the subtitle.

Mike began his very witty presentation by observing that the Hunt Report is underwhelming and full of internal contradictions. Erika similarly observed that the Report is long on aspiration, but short on detail. And both of them felt that it betrays its lack of engagement with serving academics; and they and Ryan all observed that, where there are bars to access to higher education (HE), one family member may not be able to go to College to allow another to do so.…

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Chief Justice argues creation of new court of appeal essential – The Irish Times

3 March, 201210 July, 2013
| No Comments
| Irish Court of Appeal, Irish Law, Irish Society, Politics

From the Irish Times:

Unlike its counterparts in the common law world, Ireland does not have an intermediate appeal court, leading to a situation where the Supreme Court was overwhelmed by the volume coming from the High Court. The creation of a court of appeal was promised in the programme for government, she said.

For my previous posts, see here, here and here.…

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Better angels, undesirable devils, and the judicial pay amendment

24 October, 20116 November, 2016
| No Comments
| Irish Society, judges, Open Justice, The Rule of Law

Why Vote NoEarlier this evening, I did an interview on The Last Word with Matt Cooper on Today fm concerning next Thursday’s referendum to amend the Constitution to add a mechanism to allow judges’ salaries to be reduced. The arguments in favour of the principle are very strong: as a matter of fairness and balance, when other public servants are suffering pay reductions, there is no good reason why judges should not do so too. But that is not the only principle at stake here: the independence of the judiciary is an important aspect of the rule of law. Any implementation of the principle of reduction in judicial salaries in line with other public servants ought to be done without doing violence to the principle of the independence of the judiciary. As I said on The Last Word with Matt Cooper this evening, I do not believe that the proposed amendment manages to maintain this balance.

The amendment proposes that “provision may … made by law to make proportionate reductions to the remuneration of judges” in certain circumstances. Leaving aside those circumstances, this simply allows the reduction of judicial salaries to be effected by legislation, which in the ordinary way is proposed by Government.…

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